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Why 27 needs 41 triplings when the arithmetic says twelve 8 steps
The ¾ rule says an orbit should need about ln n ÷ ln(4/3) triplings to get home. For n = 27 that is between eleven and twelve. The tool says 41. Find where the extra twenty-nine came from, then use the same bookkeeping on the largest starting value anyone has ever checked.
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From an odd n the next value is 3n + 1, which is even, so at least one halving follows. It is divisible by 4 half the time, by 8 a quarter of the time, by 16 an eighth of the time, and the expected number of halvings is the sum of k·2−k, which is exactly 2. One tripling followed by two halvings multiplies by ¾.
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Multiplying by ¾ each time, the orbit should arrive at 1 once (¾)o has cut n down to nothing. Solving for o gives ln 27 ÷ ln(4/3) = 11.46. Call it twelve triplings, and with two halvings apiece, about thirty-five steps altogether.
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Now load 27 into the tool. Total stopping time reads 111, and Halvings per tripling shows the split it came from: 41 triplings and 70 halvings. The prediction is out by a factor of 3.58. So 27 is not a typical starting value.
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Take the +1s out and the orbit becomes pure multiplication: 41 triplings and 70 halvings applied to 27. That product is 0.8341, and the tool prints it under The orbit with its +1s deleted. It would be exactly 1 if the +1s did nothing at all, and it lands below 1 because each +1 hands the halvings a little extra to remove. On a power of two, where no odd step ever happens, it is exactly 1.
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Rearrange that. Writing L for the product, n·3o ÷ 2e = L, so taking logarithms base 2 gives e = o·log₂3 + log₂(n/L), and dividing by o gives the ratio the tool prints. For 27 that is 1.58496 + 0.12236 = 1.70732, which the tool rounds to 1.7073. For an orbit that reaches 1 the ratio can never fall below log₂3 = 1.5850, and the ones that come closest are those spending the most triplings for the size of their starting value. Below 100,000 nothing gets closer than 27 does.
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That is what a long orbit is: one that runs short of halvings. Here are 27 and the three starting values that top the scan's three ranges, with 26 alongside for contrast. A typical starting value averages about two halvings per tripling; every record holder here runs between 1.70 and 1.74. The orbit is spending its triplings and not getting the divisions back.
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Every starting value up to 271 has been checked, about 2.36 × 1021 of them, by David Bařina on European supercomputers and published in 2025. Every one came home. How long should the journey be down there? ln(271) is 49.213, so the heuristic gives 171 triplings and around 513 steps for a typical number of that size.
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The numbers that make this problem interesting are not typical ones. Against the mean total stopping time in each scanned range — 59.60, 84.98 and 107.54 steps — the record holder runs 2.99, 3.07 and 3.25 times as long. Carry the last of those across and the slowest starting values near 271 want something nearer 1,700 steps than 500. The ratio is still climbing at the largest range the tool scans, so 1,700 is a floor rather than an estimate, and every figure in this step is extrapolation from a heuristic. That is the only kind of statement anyone has about numbers that size.
Answer
41 triplings rather than twelve, because 27's orbit runs at 1.7073 halvings per tripling where a typical one runs at about 2. All that is left to bring 27 down is the gap between 1.7073 and log₂3 = 1.5850, and it is thin, so the descent takes 111 steps.
None of this proves anything. The ¾ comes from treating each 3n + 1 as though a coin decided how many times it is divisible by two, and the coin is a fiction: the halvings along one orbit are fixed the moment you pick n. Every number checked so far has come home anyway, all 2.36 × 1021 of them. Terence Tao came closest, proving that almost every starting value eventually drops below f(n) for any f that grows to infinity however slowly, with almost every meaning logarithmic density 1. Almost every is not every, and that gap is where the problem still sits. -
References (3)
- The verification limit the page quotes, and where the 2.36 × 10²¹ comes from: David Bařina, "Improved verification limit for the convergence of the Collatz conjecture", The Journal of Supercomputing 81(1), 1–14, 2025. doi:10.1007/s11227-025-07337-0
- The strongest partial result, which the answer quotes: Terence Tao, "Almost all orbits of the Collatz map attain almost bounded values", Forum of Mathematics, Pi 10, e12, 2022 (posted 2019). doi:10.1017/fmp.2022.8
- Where the Erdős line comes from, and the standard survey of the problem: Jeffrey C. Lagarias, "The 3x + 1 problem and its generalizations", American Mathematical Monthly 92(1), 3–23, 1985.